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Tiana Calthye
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 Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: Aliases, factions, and fleets! (oh my?) |
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Yeah, just for clarification, we don't have anything in the rules about aliases (I think) because none of us care. You can feel free to have as many aliases of whatever ranks and classes you want, as long as you feel like keeping on top of them. Use them wisely, and we probably won't even call you out if you have a little bit of alias interacting.
Factions... mini factions and stuff are quite permissable as long as you contact me and ask first. You don't even really need five people to start one, since... like... there aren't even five Jedi...
Fleets. Ummm.
You know what, I don't even know how fleets WORK, if you need one someone else is going to have to invent fleet rules and do all the rulings on them.
So, a vote! Does there NEED to be stuff in the rules about these things? I don't personally care if a faction makes an absurd fleet, because I have access to the HoF alias and I can destroy you all with a black hole if I think it's getting out of control.... errr... yes. Does anyone currently care about having alias rules in place or fleet rules? Or are you all going to be mature and good about having these allowances and not make me take them away and use HoF to massacure you all?
I suppose if we need fleet rules I can steal them from Jedi.net since that seems pretty standard. Opinions!
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As long as everyone is having fun and things don't get too absurd (insane is fine on the other hand) it's good as it is I'd say. I really like the "We don't care too much about making rules for every single thing" atitude. 
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Cy Skywalker
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Personally I don't like the idea of fleets. MEI's RPGs have always been about character-based plots. Fleets and massive battles tend to take more thought to keep track of and I don't think they're as much fun.
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Shadow Knight of the Nine
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Well the fleets are pretaining to me and my crew, but no worries, they're simply for destruction after all PC characters have been whiped out. We'll be doing mostly ground fighting until it's time for the bombardment. 
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Tiana Calthye
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| Quote: | | I really like the "We don't care too much about making rules for every single thing" atitude. |
Additude... and yeah. We might have this really long rule list, but it's mostly because I'm bad at summarizing... it's basically just "don't godmod, make good character sheets so we don't jump on you, spell check your posts or at least try write well, and we don't like bad language because it means some people can't access the site due to censor catching things, and explicit sex and violence isn't PG-13".
There, the rules in a nutshell.  There might be this insane long thread, but that's just mostly references that we don't expect everyone to read unless it pertrains to them. I haven't worked at trying to neaten up the rules and plot stuff that's scattered in that thread, mostly just removed the OOC conversation.
It might LOOK insane and long but really, we have wayyy less rules than most sites. >.> If it's not covered, well, PM and we'll tell you if it SHOULD be.
Beginning to see why the rules look so verbrose? Maybe I should make someone else write them. (dies)
| Quote: | | MEI's RPGs have always been about character-based plots. |
Exactly why I never covered fleets before. I never liked the HUGE wars. I prefer... personal... battles. >.>
But some people love keeping track of them, I guess, over character plots.
| Quote: | | but no worries, they're simply for destruction after all PC characters have been whiped out. We'll be doing mostly ground fighting until it's time for the bombardment. |
Sure thing. Then you can have as insane and huge of a fleet as you want if it's not doing anything besides preventing people from escaping...
No superweapons without mod/admin approval, though. Mkay? (THAT MEANS YOU, SHADOW AND CAE) (Cy has mod approval to do whatever she wants, anyway... >.>)
Most of us aren't that experienced with ground fighting anyway, besides like me and Nara who came from proper RPs too... and you guys. (dies) MEI never had official dueling in the old RP. We generally got two people on at the same time and let them decide who won themselves, and they went back and forth until they came to a decision. Hee...
It was interesting making duel rules.
I think I'm going to make a dueling thread... >.>
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 What have I done to, err, make you capitalize text?!?
*Looks nice and innocent*
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...Why exactly are PC characters going to be wiped out?
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Meaning killed.... exterminated. 
Don't worry, there should be cloning technology and such here if you wanna bring back your character after 3 days.
It's for the fun and sake of the storyline.
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Aryian Moon
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Exactly... it is going to be nothing but fun. Oh and what fun it will be... (The Dark Lord part of me is sticking out like a sore thumb right now)
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| What would you people reccommend as a beginning character/faction/whatnot for someone who has NEVER RPed before? |
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It depends on what canon you are most familiar with--Star Wars, LotR etc. Xaria was my first character a long long time ago--she's a Jedi. Make someone you know well enough to put them through random situations and know how they'd act.
I am going to fight tooth and nail against being "exterminated", no matter what plot points it involves...speaking of plot, does somebody *coughnewguyscough* want to fill me the RP mod in on what this plan o' doom is?
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| Cy Skywalker wrote: | | I am going to fight tooth and nail against being "exterminated", no matter what plot points it involves...speaking of plot, does somebody *coughnewguyscough* want to fill me the RP mod in on what this plan o' doom is? |
Well the basics are that this plot seemingly is a legit storyline with no mod approvals necessary. But if you wish to know what it exactly is, Tiana can tell you through PM or you can PM me for the details. 
If anyone else wishes to know...... it's basically a group seeking deminsionial domination through standard duels (or by force in other words), then whiping out the place (or cleansing it) by means of a fleet that hovers above.
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| Mangoes wrote: | | What would you people reccommend as a beginning character/faction/whatnot for someone who has NEVER RPed before? |
What are you most comfortable with? If this was solely Star Wars, I would suggest a Jedi or (if you're more naturally evil) a Sith. Since they have to go through base training--and training is basically our way of teaching people to RP, right? It's a month minimum spent, or more, until the person's comfortable RPing.
Here, though... well, if you want to be a Sith, I think either Shadow or Cae could train you. But if you're not comfortable with Star Wars, pick the fandom you're most comfortable with. It doesn't even have to be one of our "Accepted" fandoms. Take a world you know well, a world with rules that make sense to you to base your history on--do it original, if you want, you'll just be required to describe even more. If you're comfortable with writing, RPing shouldn't be difficult.
Whatever character you make, make them something that can begin with someone else, so you can learn how to interact and feel out the whole roleplaying idea. Preferably someone of a lower level, someone in training. A wizard apprentice who's never touched magic before. A mutant just discovering their powers. A Jedi hopeful, who knows they're Force-sensitive but has never used it before. Don't try starting out as the Dark Lord of Mordor with millions of troops under your command. Don't try starting out as something you don't really know.
You can always make a new character once you're comfortable with RPing.
(and laughs at the evil villains)
Ahhh, yes. Isn't it too bad all of the mods are good guys?
No... kidding. We're honest and will give wins to bad guys if we think they did good. ^^
[random] I want a Force sensitive pirate. [/random]
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Dustin Miller
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I've got a better idea then sticking a new person in the Jedi/Sith... or LoTR or anything for that matter... besides the Real Life Roleplay. Even though, some have mutants and the likes... who's to say everyone does.
I'd advise that Mangos or whatever your name was... to lazy to look back. Just make a character sheet filled in with information of yourself or how you would want yourself to be in a different life. Then when you start posting... do it as if you were starting a new day.
For example:
The sun cast its dreadful rays through the tiny gaps between the blinds, the glare of mourning stirring the young boy. David Trueblood, a lowly thirteen year old boy, woke violently from a nightmare as the light touched his eyelid's causing reality to set in once more. Taking his mind off of the sci-fi dream that he had just had about Star Wars, a collection of movies that he was a die hard fan.
"Awwwww" Yawned the human child as he graced the floor with his presence once more, as he pushed himself off of his bed.
Sauntering down the hallway, David could smell a pleasent scent filling the air... it was bacon.
See how I did that... basic life... start in slumber and then go through your routine in seperate posts... go find someone to interact with, that way it'll be fun. Then when your done for the day, head home and get some sleep.
If you have any further questions feel free to PM me... I'll be more than glad to help.
FYI: This is Aryian Moon... and I have a Force Sensative Pirate... that also happens to be a Vampire. SO HA! |
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Mangoes
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Thanks, Tiana, Cy, and Aryian Moon. I think I get the idea.  Are there any smugglers in the Star Wars thread? I'm most familliar with Star Wars, and, well, smugglers are the best. ^.^
edit:.... also just noticed that there's an Elder Scrolls' location on the RPG thread... How many other people on here play Oblivion??? |
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No idea. I haven't played it, but one or two of them have. They asked for the location. We'll make others if someone else gives us the information and they'll be used... we'll just need a place to put a Time Station there, too.
We don't have any smugglers yet. As I mentioned, I find NFUs the hardest for newer characters because they rarely have a faction and therefore have to be confident enough to go around in RP and make their own plots. But you can feel free to make one because smugglers are cool.
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Darth Revan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Cy Skywalker wrote: | | Personally I don't like the idea of fleets. MEI's RPGs have always been about character-based plots. Fleets and massive battles tend to take more thought to keep track of and I don't think they're as much fun. |
I disagree. If were going to have Star Wars characters/factions on this site, there has to be fleets. A majority of Star Wars is fleet battles. I mean, the might of the Empire is shown in it's fleet as well as the Sith Armada back in the Old Republic. There HAS to be some type of external planet defense. One faction can't have a fleet and not the others, because if there is no fleet protecting the planet..uhh..
Say hello to orbital bombardment. And then anyone on that planet can say buh-bye. If your not going to give other factions fleets as well, then NO faction can have a fleet. It's either multiple, or none.
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And I'm going to explain this.
MEI AIN'T JEDI.NET. Nor is it Jedi Masters. Nor is it any other typical Star Wars RPG. We're not faction leaders because Yoda's canonically the Star Wars faction leader. Etc. It's character based before faction based. We're giving a new, original faction rights to USE a fleet, yep. That doesn't mean the other factions don't have them. Far from it. Coruscant has whatever defenses it has at this time, same with every other planet. So what if the majority of Star Wars is fleet battles? The majority of our players don't like fleet battles. No way we're going to be able to find someone who wants to sacrifice time playing a completely fleet based character. To run fleet battles on here would be to get on the nerves of most people, when we just want to run around and have subplots and more ground based action. If/when the time comes that fleet battles show up, the NPCs running Coruscant will put up the planetary shielding and someone in the faction under attack's going to have to make evacuation or retiliate. We'll work out the details then. It can be assumed that Jedi have a bunch of Star Fighters, the Alliance has some nice capital ships and access to shipyards to make more. Same deal with the Empire and the Sith.
But we're not Jedi.net. Look at the character PCs and tell me if you see a heavy focus on star fighter pilots or space based combat. Star Wars itself might have been mostly about space combat (well, duh, look at the name), but the world it created wasn't just about space based combat. We're MEI and character focused. NPCs that don't have names yet are worrying about the space combat. Sure, this means if the single PC fleet decides to attack, prepare for orbital bombardmant and all that, and chaos and henceforth, oblivion. It's not a huge fleet, and it can't cover the entire planet all at once, people will escape. And hey, then it'll cause some action.
Other factions CAN have fleets. They probably DO have fleets. They're just not PC fleets! Yet. Maybe a nice destruction of a bunch of NPCs will make sure people get themselves a PC fleet. As it is, I don't think anyone here will be severely emotionally wounded if the PC fleet decides to bombard their planet. So what if some PCs die... we can come back.
Yeah. If you or your faction wants a fleet, PM me, I'll make sure it gets edited into your thread's first post... just make sure someone's willing to control it if the going gets tough. Since this isn't a completely Star Wars RPG, I don't think having a bunch of PC fleets is necessary. It's not necessary to have a PC police force in every Terran thread, is it?
I'm not disagreeing with your logic... on a site like Jedi.net, yep, if a faction didn't have a fleet, BYE BYE! Just stating my reasons for not making fleets my top priority.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. I have no intention of arguing with the admin. I tend to want to get along with everyone.
But. I never said make the fleets your top priority. What I meant was, it's kind of hard to allow one faction to have a fleet, when others don't want to. Yea, sure you can have planetary sheilds. But..then there's no point in having fleets. And by no means do I want this site to resemble Jnet, or Jedi-Masters. I love new things, and creativity, but when you incorporate Star Wars with other things, problems erupt.
Obviously, were going to have to make fleets optional. But, they should be limited immensly. I assume you will be taking control of how many ships a fleet can have, and what kind of ships a fleet can have. But you have to make a "Fair" defense for the people who don't want to have fleets.
Example: A fleet attacks Gala. Gala doesn't have a fleet protecting it. The defense has to be able to defend the user who does not want fleets, but also be penetrable to the attacking user. It can't be an unstopable defense. Anyway, your not stupid, I'm sure you know this already.
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| Quote: | | Gala doesn't have a fleet protecting it. |
Yes, they do. It's an NPC fleet, that's all. What I'm saying is that every faction that would logically have a fleet DOES have a fleet, they just haven't put PCs in command of it. If because of this, Gala gets taken by the guys who decided they wanted a PC fleet and someone who didn't have a fleet gets ticked off about it, well, they have the option to make their faction's fleet PC opperated.
There's already fleet limits... I think it was four ships I allowed them and they agreed they'd only use it after they took the planet by ground unless another faction gets a PC fleet to oppose them. I'm just sayin', right now we don't NEED fleets for all the factions. Once something happens, I'll make sure they happen.
Problems with incorperating Star Wars with other things only erupt when people make them erupt. MEI used to be able to have fleets wherever someone wanted them without trouble, and we didn't even need to mod duels because users decided outcomes on their own. You see, it's possible to do RPs without needing these things in place, particularly in tiny ones. When we're bigger, we'll need fleet rules. Right now, we don't. We're small enough to get away with imbalance because it's still developing.
I promise you that as soon as it starts feeling imbalanced enough to tick off people in RP, we will fix it. But if no one's bothered by NPC (Hand of Fate type) controlled NPC fleets for the other factions for now, and we're not even anywhere near the possibility of a fleet battle yet, why fix it? They don't want a PC fleet, they get an NPC fleet, and therefore whatever the admins/mods behind the main NPC accounts feel like giving them for defense. (where's that d6...)
And I'm a nice admin. =P You're not arguing with me. You're expressing something that bothers you, and you see a potential problem. I agree, I can see this problem, and if we were way activer, it would be a big problem in need of fixing. Just because I make long posts doesn't mean I'm mad. I always post this much. ;)
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